To the Editor,

Timothy Smith made assertions about Measure P that are not accurate.

Transferring electric proceeds to the general fund has been done since the utility was formed years ago at a rate of about 10 percent per year. It is not a tax increase. nor is it new.

The funds are used to balance budgets. Paying for public safety, community service programs, State mandated policies introduced without funding mechanisms, and to maintain public buildings, and help with infrastructure issues.

You asked why we need this much funding when there is only a 1.5 million dollar short fall. The original deficit was 3.5 million.  To get here each department was forced to cut deeply into the services they can provide. What happened? CalPers increased their demand by $460,000 and goes up again next year. CalFire’s contract increased by $353,000, in addition to a $200,000 increase last year. Riverside County canceled the Jail Memorandum of Understanding that gave us $450,000 a year to pay for four officers.

Measure P calls for “up to” a 7.5 percent transfer of funds. If the general fund requires less only the funds needed will be transferred. An audit of the general fund expenses directly attributable to the utility is 4.5 percent. These cover billing people, accounting services, fleet maintenance, and other provided services, and are not in question. This measure would increase the maximum transfer to 12 percent.  That consists of the 4.5 percent of attributable expenses up to an additional 7.5 percent.  Safeguards for the money’s usage are built in. They include an independent Oversight Committee, mandatory audits, and annual public reports. Also included is a three year rate freeze.

You asked, “Can’t new home taxes at Pardee and new pot manufacturing and retail establishments pay for this?”  Not right away. Many years ago the agreement with Pardee allows them to build the first 500 homes free of impact fees. If they are built within the next two years the City will not receive those fees.  Cannabis projected revenues will not be realized for two to three years. It will take time for the growers and retailers to go through the State and City permitting process and start generating taxable revenues.

Your statement, “That was an unlawful tax” is incorrect.  Two court cases have ruled that “revenues eligible for transfer” by a utility to a city’s general fund are not a tax. The City’s “revenues eligible for transfer” averaged between $2 and $3 million annually.

Without Measure P what do we cut, police, fire, paramedics, youth programs, senior citizen programs? Do we stop City assistance to our signature events like the Playhouse Bowl and Stage Coach Days?

Our current reserves are $12 million.Under current circumstances, and knowing the financial future, our reserves will be depleted in four years. This would be devastating to the City’s ability to provide even the most meager services and public safety to our residents. That is why we need to vote “Yes” on Measure P.

George Moyer, Banning


(4) comments

Libi Uremovic

'...Transferring electric proceeds to the general fund has been done since the utility was formed years ago at a rate of about 10 percent per year. It is not a tax increase. nor is it new....'

but that doesn't make it legal - it's illegal for government agencies to charge excessive fees for a service - period - they certainly can't transfer the money to the general fund to pay out lawyers and consultants ...


And once again, Libi demonstrates her complete ignorance of a subject. Well, at least she is consistent.


I've never been a fan of Mr Moyer, but he is spot on regarding this issue. This transfer IS legal, and has always been legal. It's not a tax, it's not theft. The water bond/police station debacle was more than a decade ago, and has exactly ZERO relevance to the electric fund transfer. One of the advantages of having a municipal utility rather than an investor owned utility (like SCE) is exactly that transfer, as well as actually having some control over the utility (just how much do you think SCE would care about your opinions?). The effect that this transfer has on a resident's bill is literally pennies. Vote YES on Measure P.


You're a fool if you vote for measure P. When I moved to this city 33 years ago, I was shocked to find out that the Banning Electric department was STEALING our payments for electricity and giving it to the general fund, to pay for all manner of things, none related to the Electric Department. It is simply another tax put on our citizens. No vote was ever taken on this tax, and now. belatedly, they're trying to fool the voters into approving this tax, this theft of electric funds....DON'T LET THEM DO IT.

We voted for a 20 million dollar water fund...and the City Council STOLE 15 million of it and built themselves a Taj Mahal of a Police we have no money for water improvements. This is just another theft that the Council seems so adept at.

If the Council needs more tax dollars they need to go before the voters and make a case for it, and have the voters vote on it....not stealing our payments

Welcome to the discussion.

Keep it Clean. Please avoid obscene, vulgar, lewd, racist or sexually-oriented language.
Don't Threaten. Threats of harming another person will not be tolerated.
Be Truthful. Don't knowingly lie about anyone or anything.
Be Nice. No racism, sexism or any sort of -ism that is degrading to another person.
Be Proactive. Use the 'Report' link on each comment to let us know of abusive posts.
Share with Us. We'd love to hear eyewitness accounts, the history behind an article.